April 7, 2009, 10:38 am

The Top Five Reasons for NOT Getting a BSN…BUSTED!

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Lord knows I have entered the realm of stupidity many a few times in my life!

And let me tell you, there is no cure for stupidity, only an acquired resistance after multiple bouts of dumb behavior!

I wish I had invented the “I Can Has Cheezeburger?” website.

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Love it!

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Ah, the vaunted Bachelor of Science in Nursing.

The path to enlightenment.

The epitome of achievement, without which you must fight for your right to be called a professional.

So, why don’t you have it?

Why would you even want it?

*****

I know all the excuses because I gave all the excuses!

Why the hell would someone want a BSN?

Not me.

Are you serious?

Well, here are the top five reasons I (and perhaps you) used to give for not getting a BSN.

I list ’em.

Then I bust ’em.

*****

1.  I don’t have the time.

Who said you had to take it head-on, full-time?  Chances are you don’t have all the non-nursing courses required for the BS degree.  You know, a humanities class, ethnic studies, world culture.  You can dip your toe in by taking one class.  One.  Doesn’t even have to be a nursing class, at least at first.

Check out a few BSN programs.  Find out what they require outside of the nursing classes.  Then take that class at your local junior college; make sure the units are transferable.

One. Class.

I bet you can take them online, too, giving you even more flexibility.

If you have the time to read this post, you have the time to read an assignment.

Seriously.

2.  I don’t have the money (aka: In this economy? Are you nuts?)

Oh, I feel your pain here, fellow nurses. Trust me.

But there are ways to work around it.

Take your non-nursing requirements at a junior college.  I’m taking both my ethnic studies requirement and my world culture class online from my local junior college, and both are transferable to the UWGB. I paid a whopping $100 for both classes, six units.  Had I gone to the university level, I’d have paid $360 for one unit.

Most hospitals have something available for continuing education, and classes toward an advanced degree count.  It may not be great, but it is something. Parlay that into a future benefit by taking a class that will count for something other than just CEs.

As far as choosing an educational institution, you will save money if you can stay in-state. The tuition will be much lower.  I’m an “out-of-state” student at the University of Wisconsin, Green Bay, and while I think it is a fantastic program, my checkbook shows the difference.

And remember, you can work at your own pace.  If that pace is dictated by the checkbook, that’s okay.

3.  It will take too long. (AKA: It’s too much work!)

What is “too long”?  Time is going to pass whether you take a class or not.  You might as well have it pass with some units to show for it at the end.  That’s the beauty of getting a BSN in this day and age.  You work at YOUR pace, you take your time, with classes that fit into YOUR schedule.

By the way, have you taken any classes for anything since your nursing graduation? Did you take an art history class? A music appreciation class? A literature class? You might be shocked at how much credit you have sitting in your life experience.  I took two paralegal classes once, just for fun. “Intro to the Legal Profession” and “Litigation I”, through Cal State Hayward’s extension program.

They both counted as upper division electives toward my BSN.  And I had taken them twenty years ago.

4.  I’m too old (AKA: Oh god! I’ll have to take statistics!)

Oh, puhlease. I’ve got half a century behind me and, God willing, half a century in front of me.  You’re too old for what?  Did your brain put up a barrier to any future educational input?  Have you bought into the notion that “older” means slowing down?

Let me tell you, education is wasted on the young.  Find out what it is like to get an education and appreciate it!  I appreciated nothing when I was nineteen.  Not the fact I had been chosen for the nursing program right out of the gate, not the fact that it was FREE back then.  I didn’t know what I didn’t know.  If I knew then what I know now, I’d have run my instructors ragged with questions and picked their brains until they were as dry as the Mohave.

You are sitting there with decades of hands-on nursing experience behind you. You have so much to contribute to classes, to your colleagues….

About the only reason this excuse works is that you intend to retire in a year.  And if you are, your 401K is in better shape than mine…..

(PS – if you can add, subtract, multiply and divide, you can do statistics.)

5.  I don’t get any benefits from having a BSN (AKA: I’m already a good nurse without it!)

Well, if you are defining “benefit” as a tangible increase in greenbacks, I can’t argue with you there.

While earning a living as an RN is great no matter what your education level, there are intangible benefits to the BSN.  As my colleague who is thisclose to her PhD said to me, “It won’t change the way you practice, because you already practice at a high level. It will, however, change the way you think about how you practice.”

Anytime you can increase your knowledge and blend it with your experience,  you are “benefiting” from it.  And so are your patients.

The nurse my patients get now is not the nurse they would have gotten three years ago.

Oh, I’m a good nurse. Always have been. Safe, caring, knowledgable. And proud of my ADN and the program that produced it.

But I’m a better nurse now. Not because my degree may be higher than the nurse working next to me, but because I, personally, have a deeper knowledge of my profession than I had before.  A better understanding of why I do what I do as an RN.  An increased ability to think critically about patient care and what I, as an RN, can provide.

More money?  Nope.

But the intangibles are worth every cent I’m paying for the BSN.  Every drop of blood, sweat and tears.

And I’m not even done yet.

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If you have ever, ever considered going back for your degree, now is the time to start.

Do it for yourself.

Do it for your patients.

Do it for your career.  For flexibility.

You never know what opportunities will come in the future, but barring a few exceptions,  I can pretty much guarantee that opportunity will require at least a BSN.

39 Comments

  • Nurse K
    Nurse K

    April 8, 2009 at 3:47 pm

    If you don’t plan on getting a graduate degree or work in public health, sorry, it’s not worth the money. It cost me $80,000 plus tuition and addt’l loans to cover living expenses (80K = the difference in salary over two years between my college waitressing job and nursing). It MIGHT be worth it if you have a specific job in mind that requires one, but if you’re happy in your current job, it doesn’t do you much good. Just my 2 cents.

    Nurse K, RN, BSN (from the beginning)


  • Lynn
    Lynn

    April 9, 2009 at 7:54 pm

    Thanks for the encouragement. It took me years to come to some of the same conclusions and it’s good to read them (plus a few new ones) from someone else.


  • Sam
    Sam

    April 10, 2009 at 12:16 am

    As a nursing student, I see no real incentive to complete my BSN. Every job I intend to apply for and every job I have been offered do not require it. I know my capabilities and a acquiring a BSN will only keep me in a classroom when I could be helping patients.


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  • Nurse Bettie
    Nurse Bettie

    April 11, 2009 at 9:08 am

    “More money? Nope.”

    While I agree in principle with what you have said regarding the benefits of higher education, (I am four months away from my AAS in nursing after 19 years as an LPN) I have to wonder if any profession not dominated by women would settle for not having any real financial reward for higher levels of education. I fear that we nurses have “nurtured” ourselves right into a hole (or kept ourselves there) with this attitude. We’re really good advocates for our patients, but not for ourselves.


  • allison
    allison

    April 12, 2009 at 7:09 pm

    Maybe it’s not an issue in other parts of the country, but here in Southern California, we are seeing insurance companies threaten to stop reimbursement if certain hospital positions are not filled by nurses with BSN or higher education. At least one hospital I know has set forth a “get educated, or a new job” for charge nurses and managers to avoid such problems. Again, maybe it’s not an issue where you work now, but something to consider…


  • Nursek
    Nursek

    April 12, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Seriously, BSN is something that I have slowly worked up to. I did the take one class at a time thing and wouldnt you know I graduate next month!!!


  • KellyRNBSN23
    KellyRNBSN23

    April 16, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    I have been a RN, BSN for 23 years. When I started school, I did not know what a “hot topic”
    the BSN vs. ADN vs. Diploma issue was (yes, there were still Diploma programs available when I started school). I just wanted to be a Nurse and my Mother wanted me to have a college degree, hence the BSN. I am so grateful that I went to a BS nursing program. It taught me how to critically think about everything I did as a nurse, be accountable for my practice, think of myself as a professional in the workplace, advocate for my patients and other nurses, mentor new nurses etc…I am not knocking any nursing degree. I have certainly worked with excellent ADN nurses and LVNs. However, if you are thinking of going to nursing school or advancing your education (and I hope you are-we 50 something nurses need to know there are good replacements in the workplace as we move toward retirement age) go the BSN route. You will never be disappointed with your decision.


  • Aura
    Aura

    April 17, 2009 at 5:18 am

    It boggles my mind how many pathways to nursing you have in America. In Australia, we have an enrolled nurse (18 month diploma) or a registered nurse (3 yr uni degree with an option for honours year). So getting your degree over here translates to a definite increase in pay, scope of practice and autonomy.

    We don’t get electives in our Nursing degree, at least not in the program I’m doing. It’s a straight Bachelor of Nursing with all nursing and science based courses. Another point of difference is the NCLEX that you guys have to pass. We don’t have that here, and boy am I glad! (Don’t need that stress.)

    Congrats on furthering your education; there’s always more to learn, even after 37 years. And I think you hit the nail on the head when you said you now have a “better understanding of why I do what I do as an RN” and “an increased ability to think critically about patient care”

    It’s actually refreshing to hear a long time nurse point out the benefits of uni based training.


  • KellyRNBSN23
    KellyRNBSN23

    April 17, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    Aura,
    Thanks for the comments and good luck in your studies.


  • Katie
    Katie

    April 22, 2009 at 6:25 am

    It is all about the money . Where would I get the money to get a BSN


  • Katie
    Katie

    April 22, 2009 at 6:26 am

    I already put 3 children through college and am still in tuition hell


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  • Oneta Walker
    Oneta Walker

    September 19, 2009 at 7:04 am

    I have been a BSN for over 30 years and the pay rate has never been different for me then for the ADN’s in the rural areas so I understand why manyof the nurses do not go back for their BSN’s however i still believe that it is very important to continually improve on their education for thier own educational improvement. Nursing is continually changing and research is continually learning something new and we need instructors all of the time and the BSN is needed for instructors to continue to get their MSN to teach so the continuation of education is necessary even though the need for nurses is out there and the ADN programs are prominent.


  • Scott
    Scott

    December 13, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    I am finishing BSN only to go on to NP, otherwise, I would not have done it at all. I have been a nurse for 15 years, and I simply don’t see a need for BSN it it is not a requirement for future education.
    1) How is it that BSN nurse’s feel they are more able to make critical decisions (the all-important critical thinking referred to by many). I can’t say that nursing research, multiculture nursing, community nursing, nursing of the family, or that outdated physical assessment class has any critical thinking value at all. What is a BSN-RN going to do in a hurry, write a care plan?
    2) The “nursing in the community” model failed in the 1980’s. As it turns out, people don’t want to be helped in the community. That would mean changing their lifestyle, diet, and adherence to medications. They want to come to the hospital, have their problem fixed (real or perceived), and go home, preferably the same day.
    3) The BSN is the only way to get up the ladder. Hogwash. I would venture to guess that more than half of the directors and above are not BSN. Probably a number in-line with the number of BSN nurses in the hospital.
    4) BSN is more of a professional. If professional means sitting at the desk writing care plans (or texting your boyfriend), then I guess that is it. But basic care of patients has deteriorated rapidly since the days that I worked as a PCT, long before my RN days. I found a dressing on a patient’s groin the other day that was placed there after a cardiac cath 2 weeks ago. The patient was on a ventilator in the ICU. I guess airway was more important.
    5) BSN provides a better understanding of health. OK, ask your local BSN the difference between solu-cortef and solu-medrol. Or how about the difference between Plavix and Effient.


  • Sharon S
    Sharon S

    December 22, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    It took me 5 years to get my AS, another 2 for my BSN and now I am on my way to NP. We all travel our own paths in our own time. If you dont think it is important or worth the time or money then I guess it isnt. But to those of us who do – it is worth all the late nights and sacrifices.

    However, it is a messed up system where the bump in education does not merit a bump in pay, and I do agree with the person who posted that it is because women do not lobby for more money where as men do.


  • Paul
    Paul

    March 5, 2010 at 8:31 pm

    The only way to get into the military as an RN is with a BSN – unless you want to be a Reservist. I have been a nurse for 8-years (Diploma) – have my PALS; ACLS; TNCC; Chemo Cert; etc – but my driving motivation to get my BSN is to become a Flight Nurse in the Air Force. True, I could get my CFRN and be a civilian Flight Nurse – and here in Alaska that would be a challenging job – but not the same as the opportunities that would open up to me as a Flight Nurse in the Air Force. So, if a BSN they want – a BSN they’ll get.
    🙂


  • Susan
    Susan

    April 21, 2010 at 3:37 pm

    Another reason I am facing–nursing may injure your back. Then your non BSN options are limited and you may want to get an MSN. I would have started with a BSN if it had been available where I live. I resent the wasted time it takes to get the ADN vs the BSN. They should articulate evenly. But ADN programs have to take more than 2 years to make an educated nurse… so frustrating. But bedside nursing I think my ADN program was excellent and was #1 in state of all schools for passing state boards at time. ” It taught me how to critically think about everything I did as a nurse, be accountable for my practice, think of myself as a professional in the workplace, advocate for my patients and other nurses, mentor new nurses etc…” I think anyone in my ADN program who did not learn that was out. I may have had a unique ADN program. Still I wish I had my BSN for the time commitment especially if I were starting from scratch!


  • lisa
    lisa

    May 11, 2010 at 4:38 pm

    im 21 years old and i just finished my 4 year BSN in the philippines. i am a canadian citizen and after my graduation last week, i have moved back to canada. I will be taking my licensure exam in december but am taking review classes here in BC. in the mean time i am looking for volunteer opportunities in the medical field. now im just wondering what kind of jobs i could apply for in the medical field with my BSN. can someone give me any ideas. theres so many jobs out there and they all require certifications and diplomas, but none ever say “BSN”.


  • Dana
    Dana

    June 6, 2010 at 1:40 pm

    I am now forced to get my BSN because our hospital wants all their RN’s to have a BSN. I have been a nurse for 16 years. The education I received from my diploma program focused on crital thinking, hands on experience and learning. The nurses that graduated with a BSN couldn’t even spike an IV bag let alone do a drip factor beacause they did not have to in their 4 year BSN program. I am going back for my BSN now due to get it or find another job.


  • Dawn
    Dawn

    June 17, 2010 at 12:15 am

    I already have a non-nursing bachelors and masters degree, but I am not happy where I am at. I thought about nursing a long time ago and even have some prereqs fulfilled already. I am contemplating either a BSN or MSN and would like some advice on the major differences between these two.


  • Edmond.
    Edmond.

    July 10, 2010 at 9:36 pm

    In every universities here in Tx. they require you to have an MSN degree to teach, but in order to qualify you, you need to have a BSN degree. where as if you want to teach in a junior college BSN will do. i dont really see any difference between the BSN and the associate degree. and the MSN as will, if you are looking to be in the managerial position later then go to BSN or MSN.but if youre contented to be in the bedside care, then associate degree is the option. weigh what you want later on.


  • Tricia
    Tricia

    August 16, 2010 at 10:50 am

    Would like to hear from Dana (post from 6/17/2010) to see how it’s going with her Diploma to BSN journey. We have very similar paths. RN’s for 16 years. Diploma Nurses (really, the most qualified, highly trained nurses), who had to bear the inexperience of BSN nurses throughout our careers. Forced to return to school to take courses that will not in anyway raise our already high standards of patient care. Dana, if you check back to this site, please give an update and advice. Thanks.


  • medical uniform lover
    medical uniform lover

    November 16, 2010 at 7:04 pm

    Good luck Tara on your medical nursing path! Get used to wearing scrubs lol


  • zoe
    zoe

    November 17, 2010 at 9:10 am

    Is there any way to get a BSN for free? I am a diploma RN


  • zoe
    zoe

    November 17, 2010 at 9:11 am

    addendum: to notify of comments


  • FutureCNP/FNP
    FutureCNP/FNP

    January 4, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    I have to agree with the author on this one. Although nurses are not required to have BSN in order to work, having those credentials lends more credibility to the profession in the same way that a PhD lends prestige to doctors…. why SHOULDN’T all nurses be BSN??? Pay raise or no, nurses as a whole need to be recognized for the standard of care that they provide to patients and they just don’t get it because some don’t feel like they “need” to…. interestingly enough, MDs have no choice or no hospital will hire them…. just my two cents.


  • Khadijah
    Khadijah

    January 8, 2011 at 2:56 pm

    I’m in nursing school for my ADN. I already have a bachelors. The deciding factors in me not getting a BSN were…

    I already owe 17g’s for my bachelors and certainly wasnt about to tack on 25 more for yet, another bachelors- that did exactly what my first bachelors did- not pay me any extra money. At some point id like to go from rn to msn to teach- but that will be yeaarrrss down the line. RN to MSN, is still cheaper than accelerated BSN to MSN.

    In just searching for jobs on indeed.com, all the jobs that required a BSN also required years of experience. So as a first year graduate, theres a 90% id end up bedside just like all the other BSN nurses, again, making the same amount of money- yet paying out the wazoo to Sallie Mae.


  • nurse zel
    nurse zel

    January 9, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    This is just about collegiate envy and bored burocratic invention AT EVERYONES EXPENSE.

    It is not cost effective and has led to people performing all sorts of NURSING ACTIONS WITHOUT A LICENSE TO PRACTICE NURSING. iT HAS CAUSED UNPRECEDENTED PREDJUDICE TO THE THREE YEAR DIPLOMA PROGRAM


  • nurse zel
    nurse zel

    January 9, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Not finished SUBMITTED BY ACCIDENT DID NOT CLICK ON SUBMIT


  • Gretchen
    Gretchen

    March 31, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    BSN grads are in heavy competition for jobs in California. New grads are having to move out of the state. The writing is on the wall.


  • Lisa
    Lisa

    May 2, 2012 at 9:49 am

    WOW! When I graduated from with an ADN, Purdue University required you to re-apply in their nursing program to move on to a BSN; 2+2 program. At that time I couldn’t see why. I didn’t want to further my school debt and I took the same state boards as the BSN did, there were BSNs sitting right next to me. I passed the first time and walked away thinking; 1. I will never subject myself to that again! and 2. I’m glad I didn’t spend more money! Now, 28 years later, a BS in Child Health and Development and my governing body is telling me that it means nothing! BSN is the only accepted 4yr degree by the ANA???? The ANA started this whole thing to begin with. During a nursing shortage they accredited many 2, 3 and Diploma programs! Now, because of many factors that have nothing to do with our education, the ANA is saying it’s not enough? I find it to be criminal, that “Magnet” wants to only accredit hospitals with 80% BSN prepared bedside nurses, as if a piece of paper makes any difference at all! And the ANA is condoning it! Now, after 29 years in the profession including management, I’m being asked to spend yet even more money and time to increase my ability to critical think? I’m doing it, but I resent the way my governing body wants me to do it. I should be given kudos for my 29 years in nursing, instead I’m being told I’m not good enough! In one of my classes for the BSN, the literature said one will only be considered a “professional” if one had a 4 year degree, belonged to a professional organization, the profession had to have only 1 educational level for entry! Which of the three professional organizations that I have belonged to for years and now sit as a regional state liaison is throwing this out to us???? Yeah, the ANA! GRRRRRR!


  • Barb
    Barb

    September 25, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    After 26 yrs as “just” a diploma grad RN I am back in school for my BSN. My last place of employment wanted BSN for that Magnate status, I left at the time cause my kids in college needed the money more than I needed to spend it on my continuing education. But at nearly 50 years old, I am tired. I am fearful of a back injury. It will take me about 18 months till I graduate and about $18,000. I will pay as I go and not borrow from the federal govt. While I am very, very, very sure it will not make me a better nurse, I am sure it will let me get a job teaching at our local community college (fundamentals of nursing can be taught by BSN nurse) or a management position where the lifting, pulling, turning is much less! So here’s to the higher ed, not that I really want to spend that money, it’s that I need to work until I’m 70 to afford retirement so I’m going for all the education I can to keep job security as I age (gracefully I hope!)


  • Hawk
    Hawk

    December 7, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    I was fortunate to have parents that encouraged me to get my 4 year degree and helped with the cost. I questioned my mom over and over, “Why do I have to get my BSN? There is no difference in pay.” Well, she is a diploma nurse. She told me I would regret it if I just settled for a 2 year degree, because she knew I would eventually need my BSN. She told me she wanted to go back to get her 4 year degree but never did. She went on to become a Lactation Consultant, which back then did not require a 4 year degree.
    I am one of those nurses that injured my back moving a numb post-epidural patient at the ripe age of 27. I had to basically give up bed side nursing and work in an OB/GYN office as a triage nurse. Fortunately the right job opportunity, an education specialist in L&D, opened at my previous place of employment. WITH MY BSN, I was qualified to apply and take the job. If I had settled with an ADN, I would have not been able to.
    I have now been in this position for 5 years. Our administration is encouraging all educators to go back to school and obtain their MSN in nursing education. At first, I was like, “HECK NO!” But now I have completed my first semester I am so glad I did. I struggled getting through the BSN. I suffer from extreme test anxiety. So the thought of going back to school stressed me out. But I love it. I am so proud of myself for doing this. I am now realizing how many more doors this is going to open for me.
    If you choose to go into Nursing because of the $$. Just quit. You won’t be happy. Bed side nurse work extremely hard, never get to go the bathroom, develop horrible back, hand, and feet problems. You go into Nursing because you have COMPASSION FOR THE PEOPLE in your community and because you CARE FOR THEM. I am responsible for training the new nurses that are hired for our division. I am so tired of people telling me they chose to be a nurse because the pay is better. Did you know that almost everyone that has told me this did not survie and quit. Nursing is an awesome profession. There are endless opportunities for everyone who WANTS to be a nurse. There are just MORE opportunities if you have your BSN.


  • Lori Engel
    Lori Engel

    December 28, 2012 at 2:10 pm

    Honestly, I understand…I never wanted any job that would require a BS so it was a no brainer to get my Associates …but times change, as do goals. I was happy as a floor nurse and I became a nurse with the goal to work in long term care nursing faciities. And even with an Associates, in LTC I was able to go into management when I became frustrated and wanted to be in a position to help improve things..I’ve been a shift supervisor, unit manager, even Assistant Director of Nursing…additionally I have also been the Director of Nursing in an Assisted Living facility, and was fortunate enough to be offered the opportunities to become certified as a Resident Assessment Coordinator to work in MDS / utlization review as well as Wound Care Certified and work as the facility wound nurse in several facilities. I have even worked as Staff Development Director. So why after 15years would I now want a Bachelors?
    1. Healthcare environment has changed. Nursing homes are now more sub-acute care and rehab facilities, and it isn’t quite the job it used to be, so now I am in the position that I would like to work in a different field, but they all want either a Bachelors and preferably experience in that field.
    2. I would like to get some other specialty certification however some are not even open to you without a Bachelors again.
    3. Wherever possible, employers are hiring LPNs, and the remaining jobs often are jobs for RNs, they are frequently requiring Bachelors for now. Some fields are pretty much off limits without a Bachelors, like school nurse, public health…most teaching require a Masters!
    4. I ended up with some chronic health problems including chronic pain and hypersomulence from central sleep apnea, in addition to have a son who is autistic. So I am in the position that I really need a job that have some flexibility, preferably day shift without weekend shifts, and minimal heavy physical labor so as not to exacerbate my pain…trust me…those jobs pretty much require at least a Bachelors!
    5. Lastly, the way things are changing in the nursing field, a Bachelors is feeling more and more like a requirement. I have worked at 4 facilities that closed. Left another due to their violating our hiring agreement. Another I was fired in a case of pure backstabbing, accused of something that was a bold faced lie without any investigation or statements or nothing to have a new RN start the day after I came in to find I was immediately fired (who happened to be a best friend of the administrator and car pooled with her every day…). Now this year I was laid off in March due to hour cuts in our department and lack of seniority. I got another job in April and in June was laid off again when the corporation eliminated that position from all of it’s faciities. I have been looking for a new job since and never before have I had difficulty finding a job like I am now (the multiple job changes don’t help I’m sure, despite not having any control over the majority of them).
    So, I am now ready to invest in my future and enrolling in a RN to BS program at 45 years old…thank god for online options. Even the fact that I am pursuing my degree will give me an advantage searching for a job over an Associate degree RN who is not.
    So, that’s my penny’s worth of food for thought on this subject.

    I personally think they need to eliminate the LPN degree (stay with me here LPNs) since they are so often doing the job of an RN already without the pay to compensate them, change the LPN position (i.e.. a nurse with a little less theory and more practical training) and utilize Associate nurses for this niche (and yes, I think there would need to be an accelerated option to transition the LPNs to associate RNs then..something better than what there currently is out ..since most LPNs have already learned a lot while working in the real world ). THEN, for the advanced technical skilled position that LPNs were initially created to fill, have a certification program available for experienced CNAs who show the ability to learn and assume more advanced skilled responsibilities for some basic technical procedures to fill the niche that LPNs were initially supposed to be used for, so CNAs might have the opportunity to advance and make a little more well deserved $$…(like the medication assistant position!)

    Plus, I’d like my pay to a little increase if not keep up with the increasing cost of living!…Almost ten years ago I first hit the $30/hr mark..since then I have worked for an average of $25-28 generally, …I can’t remember the last job from which I received a raise since everyone seems to have freezes on all raises, or your review gets forgotten month after month because everyone is just too busy, or the company is laying staff off (ie so just be happy if you still have a job!)….

    So that why I am deciding to pursue my Bachelors in Nursing now.


  • Julie F. Wallace
    Julie F. Wallace

    February 2, 2013 at 9:31 pm

    Awesome Write-Up, ThankYou


  • Ken
    Ken

    April 16, 2013 at 5:44 am

    I’ve been an RN for 22 years. We can, and probably will, continue to argue about this to our own detriment for decades to come, but some things are true whether we like them or not.
    1. The longer we fight each other, the longer we remain relatively “un-united”…and thus, easier for other groups and institutions to control
    2. If we ever hope to be treated like professionals, we simply have to look like professionals. That includes our educational requirements for entry into practice. Should it be otherwise? Perhaps. The reality, though, is that it’s not otherwise. I have no desire to denigrate diploma and AD nurses, many of whom deliver outstanding care. That said, I would not seek legal advice from a person whose education consisted of that same level of legal education.
    3. Like it or not, the research I’ve seen suggests that over time Bachelor’s level prepared nurses become more proficient than their counterparts who pursued a diploma or AD education, though there is no doubt that right out of the gate the diploma and AD nurses outperformed the BSN folks.
    4. “Getting a BSN takes too much time”, “costs too much” or “is too hard” all sound suspiciously like “I really want to be a nurse…as long as I don’t have to really work and sacrifice for it”.


  • chane84
    chane84

    May 30, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    I am 29 years old, i want to continue my education in the medical field,im a medical interpreter at this point,I am the lowest of all the comments above,i only hold my highschool diploma, in order to be a CRNA i need to get my BSN first. i heard i could get some classes online to start, and then traspher to an on campus college,i still need to find and online school going for BSN ,i will appreciate some helpful ideas,if you know some acredited online schools. and in a previous comment i read ‘if BSN is what the want BSN they will get then’


  • michele
    michele

    July 12, 2013 at 7:20 am

    I got my RN through an A.A.S. While in school we were repeatedly told “BSN in 10” or you will lose your job. We all ran out and got our BSN, just finished in Spring 2013. Well here I am and still no job. I graduated cum laude and I can’t even get an interview. I have friends who failed out of nursing only to make it back to the program and they all got jobs immediately because they had other jobs in the hospital. I was constantly rejected because of “high standard” and the mission to hit magnet status, therefore, I an ADN wasn’t good enough for their institution. Now I have a BSN with cum laude (3.95 GPA), the flunkies still have their jobs and I still cannot get an interview. I’m living in nursing hell and becoming resentful to the entire profession. This is not what I signed up for and dedicated myself and finances to for 6 years. Stuck in South Jersey RN HEEELLLLLLLL! I’m an one on-top-of-my-game person and I was tossed aside for flunkies — only in america.


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