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12 Comments

  • Wander
    Wander

    January 28, 2012 at 12:31 pm

    I am very sympathetic to Amanda’s situation, IF it all went down as she claims it did, but as far as I can tell from what you’ve written, all you’re going on is her side of the story, as presented in her anecdotal account and her lawyer or rep’s report of the incident. You are assuming the hospital simply caved in to the doc, took his word without further investigation and is persecuting Amanda based on his temper tantrum. That all may be true, but you should find out if it is by hearing their side of the story before jumping to conclusions.


  • Kim
    Kim

    January 28, 2012 at 12:37 pm

    Wander, I’d love to hear the other side! Believe me, I’ll be right there when and if Banner Health comments, or until the complaint is made public record. Until they do, this is all we have.


  • Joe3
    Joe3

    January 28, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    Well stated Kim, I have been in nursing 18 years, and like most, have had a few MDs pitch their hissy fits – then we all get back to work.
    Yes,this incident goes waay past just the firing, and all nurses need to pay attention. Your 3 points are well taken and IT DOES SCARE THE HELL OUT OF ME!
    I’m now working in psych, and frequently tell my involuntary patients there are two sides to a story: theirs and family/police and I believe the truth lies somewhere in between — I would love to hear both sides of this story, and I hope it comes out?


  • Janell
    Janell

    January 28, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    I bet Banner Health won’t comment, they will have some lawyer client reason. Many docs don’t fully educate their patients, maybe they don’t know exactly what they need to say. From Amanda’s side of the story she did the right thing. I have been a nurse for 30 years and have been yelled at once because a patient extubated himself and the physican didn’t think I took it seriously enough. I called him right away interuppting some big football game. Because I joked about being sorry to take his time away from the game he got mad. Anyway, he wanted me sent home and off the case. I had taken care of that patient for several days. The next morning I made sure to have the same assignment. He was not happy about that and wouldn’t speak to me. I took him by the jacket and said I needed to talk to him in the managers office. We had it out, and he apolgized and since then has been nothing but kind. I was lucky to have a charge nurse, and a manager that backed me up.
    So often I see a nurse in trouble and we are all scattering when really we should just walk up beside her/him and be there for support.


  • Jen
    Jen

    January 28, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    I’ve been an RN for 42 years and have been yelled at and even pulled off care once for educating patients about their care and options in the past. But when those 3 incidents happened; my managers were supportive of me and I was working in a unionized hospital and both my union and state nursing association were also supportive of me when these incidents happened. I haven’t seen this in recent years; but when a doctor thinks they can make the right health care decision for a patient; they are wrong. “Informed consent” means just that: the patient knows what his options are and what the outcomes he can expect from those options.


  • Rie
    Rie

    January 29, 2012 at 7:30 am

    the bottom line is, if in fact the patient did not understand and give informed consent to the procedure, what the doctor was doing was unethical and criminal. informed consent is not signing a piece of paper, and that piece of paper is worthless if the patient education has never happened and the questions of the patient have not been addressed. plain and simple.

    this person’s body does not belong to the medical establishment, and they don’t have the right to take away the decision from them.


  • RehabRN
    RehabRN

    January 29, 2012 at 1:41 pm

    Yes, Kim. It does scare the bejeebus out of me.

    And in my very short career, I’ve been yelled at for interrupting naps, football games, and anything else.

    Disruptive behavior still isn’t pursued thoroughly because the medical staff brings money into the facilities, and nursing staff is overhead. They always threaten to take patients elsewhere, so the admins quiver.

    I can’t wait until CMS starts paying for satisfaction…maybe then the administrators will listen.


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  • Trisha
    Trisha

    January 30, 2012 at 7:27 am

    This does indeed frighten me – if it weren’t for the stellar nurses who take the time to educate and advocate for their patients, our healthcare system would be nothing more than an autobody shop. Patients exchanging parts for money.

    When will they recognize that each human life is valuable and knowledge is not the enemy? That is the very reason why nurses are called upon to advocate – someone needs to have their eye on the big picture.


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